When is the GTX 800 Series release date?

[azzazel_99]

Wrong. Techoftomorrow actually did benchmark tests between the 290x and 780ti and the 780ti in bf4, bioshock and a few other gamed held above 30fps on ultra at 4k. Not surprising but the 780ti beat the 290x in every test they did at 4k.

 

[azzazel_99]

So depending who yoy ask 30 fps is VERY playable and when you turn off some of the filtets that im sure they had on that 30fps will probably jump to 40fps or higher. Again playable framerates. Scaled up or not 4k is 4k. Wilk games look better 5 years from now at 4k? Of course.

 

[RobCrezz]

30fps avg is pretty low though to be honest. When games a made for 4k with the much higher res textures etc current cards wont be up to the job IMO. But not that it matters, by the time 4k becomes more common we will have much faster GPUs.

 

[azzazel_99]

Exactly. But that small percent difference you list im sure gets bigger as you go up in resolution. The 780 is a great card no doubt and the 780ti is for the extreme high end enthusiasts but to deny its sheer performance in modern software is incorrect. In my opinion it was worth the purchase because when next gen cards drop I will snag another 780ti classified and rock out with my ***k out.

 

[mr91]

Here is a review that refutes Photonboys calculations.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/asus_gtx780ti_directcu_ii_oc_review/1

The 780 ti in general has lower frame variances and delivers a smoother gaming experience.

Silicon lottery is a very important factor when making calculations because not all cards have the same overclocking potential.

If I still owned a 60 hz 1080p monitor, I would probably save the money and buy the 780 however @ 1440p the 780 ti is the way to go in my opinion based on my hands on experience with these cards and multiple reviews.

 

[thismafiaguy]

Silicon lottery is a very important factor when making calculations because not all cards have the same overclocking potential.

This, right on the money. Not every GPU will/can achieve the same overclocks. I'm sure a golden 780 could beat an average 780Ti, but that's completely based on your luck.

Methods of benchmarking such as the one used by Linus do not always accurately reflect real world results, because his benchmarks are always overclocked, and are subject to variances in the silicon lottery.

 

[mr91]

This link confirms that the 780 ti is approximately 20% faster than the 780 and is designed to overclock better than any other Nvidia GPU.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-780-ti


The literature below is from the Nvidia website.

For the aforementioned enthusiasts, the GeForce GTX 780 Ti packs one final punch: Power Balancing. Designed for overclockers, Power Balancing dynamically adjusts power draw from the 6-pin PSU connector, 8-pin PSU connector, and PCI Express interface port, enabling overclockers to push the GeForce GTX 780 Ti further and harder than any other GeForce GTX 600 and 700 Series Kepler GPU. Previously, overclocking could unbalance the draw of power, suddenly maximizing the limits of one of the three sources, immediately putting a halt to any additional overclocking. This significant change enables overclockers to get more from their GPU without resorting to warranty-breaking Overvolting.

50% faster than the GeForce GTX 680, and 20% faster than the GeForce GTX 780, the GeForce GTX 780 Ti is the world’s fastest GPU. Ensuring that power is put to good use in this Holiday’s AAA, combat-focused action games is NVIDIA’s The Way It’s Meant To Be Played initiative, which has enhanced your most anticipated games with exclusive NVIDIA technologies like GPU PhysX, TXAA, PCSS, and HBAO+

 

[mr91]

The 780 ti also uses the revision B GPU

 

[mr91]

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780-ti/videos

 

[pikunsia]

I understand that this question is asked a lot, but does anyone have a general idea of which date it will be? I looking to build a hi-end gaming pc with best possible hardware during this time frame, and i'm planning to use it for awhile before upgrading. Hence, I fully understand nothing is future proof, just looking to spend on what is best at this time.

All speculations, info from anonymous bust trustable resources, basically just anything is welcomed 😀

It's not time to build a high-end rig. Don't do it!. Wait for Haswell-E 14nm processors and 20nm GPUs. Don't waste your bucks!

 

[mr91]

Something interesting might be coming out in the second quarter of this year.

Because in a EVGA Facebook comment someone complemented Kingpin on his variant of the 780 ti and he responded by saying that something even better is coming 2nd quarter of this year.

Could this be the 790 or a 880? Could Nvidia come out with a new 880 based on 28nm with a lower TDP that is more powerful than the 780 ti?

Maybe they will release a fully enabled Maxwell based on the 20nm process at the end of this year or early next year. "880 ti"

The comment was deleted so maybe Kingpin made a mistake.

 

[azzazel_99]

There isnt anything more they can do to increase performance much passed a 780ti on current architecture. 780ti is the cream of the crop for gaming.

 

[mr91]

I know however they can build another Maxwell chip using 28 nm like they did when building the 750 ti.

It does't sound realistic however why would Kingpin say faster cards than the 780 ti Kingpin are coming in the second quarter?

Kingpin is probably privy to Nvidia secrets because of his affiliation with EVGA.
Maybe EVGA will be releasing a 790 kingpin edition lol

 

[azzazel_99]

He never said something faster is comming. He stated something else was comming but never what. He could be doing something with the titan black for all we know.

 

[mr91]

He implied that what ever is coming out would be superior to the 780 ti Kingpin edition, it could be a modified Titan black however Nvidia has been against modifications to the Titan from day 1.

 

[azzazel_99]

They were also against going above their voltage cap but we all do it anyway with custom bios and evbots.

 

[azzazel_99]

Plus they have water blocks for titans and all kinds of goodies. I see the next "big" thing being the titan black or MAYBE one day a dual gpu 780 or 780ti (I.e. 790)

 

[mr91]

We will see in the second quarter if the plans are not delayed.

 

[Bad_Kitty13]

they are getting ready to release the 800 mobile series. i know its not desk top graphics but it is at least something 😛
pretty impressive if the performance scaling is what we can expect for desktop graphics it is going to be def worth waiting for
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-800m-mobility-chips-launching-cebit-14-gtx-880m-870m-860m-850m-power-notebooks/

 

[azzazel_99]

Its still 28nm stuff. Nothing new. Their 20nm flagship stuff in my opinion is the only thing worth waiting for and thats said to not be out to end of the year or maybe even early 2015.

 

[Mahisse]

I don't think it would make sense, business wise to release cards that are better than the 700 series just yet. At least there's no need to rush them out on the market as the competition doesn't require it imo. I think the card manufactures would appreciate it if they didn't have to adapt their production lines to the new technology just yet. Also giving the distributors the change to sell out their stocks before launching a new product. I would be surprised if we are going to see the new cards this year. Maybe some intro cards will be showcased by the end of the year.

 

[Daspa87]

I dont get the HASSLE!??

If you´re scared that your Build will be outdated, never Build a Rig at all.
THIS is the fastest moving Market today and your parts will always get "outdated"
at some point.

Yet, HIGH END RIGS will last you way longer than a affordable one (makes sense, doesn´t it!? 😀 ) since
Manufaturers want you to stick with High End Components once you went down that Road.
So a GTX x80series (480,580,680,780....) will always last you longer than a GTX x70 and so on, and so on.

Buddys of mine are NOW playing on 580s and still can play at High/Ultra Settings and get decent fps numbers, but the coolers start to boost it now and in a year they should upgrade IF they want the highest of settings in all new Titles.
However that is about 3,5years of lifetime then, whats a hell of a lifespan for a gpu in the terms of highend gaming.

And the Haswell-E will be on a new socket using ddr4..... now i dont know about you, but i sure wouldnt get the first shipment of chips and boards.....let them be released, fixed, and decreased in pricing 😉 and also ddr4 prolly will come with some childhoodissues that i dont want to deal with^^
Also the 6core will be a small upgrade to the 4930k, and the 8core haswell-e will start somewhere around 1000bucks, so keep that in mind.

Games in particular still cant really handle more than 4 cores, so a 4770k sometimes beats a 4930k in gaming.
And the 780Ti (trust me dawg, i got one) is a BEAST of a card....BF3 mp 64players, ULTRA settings and i am having a CONSTANT ROCK SOLID 60fps in 1080p not even dropping a single frame if the whole damn Map implodes in front of me.
And it isnt even in Boost or Gaming Mode, runs quite and gets at like 56°C..... so that piece of awesomness should last quite a while (especially since my main concern is not gaming, but its a pretty sweet bonus).


So yada yada yada..... just get a System, or wait until you stumble over your own beard.
BUT IF you want your Rig to last you a while you will always have to go Highend Parts and you always have to know that they will be outdated at some point in the not so distant future.

 

[FunkyFeatures]

I dont get the HASSLE!??

If you´re scared that your Build will be outdated, never Build a Rig at all.
THIS is the fastest moving Market today and your parts will always get "outdated"
at some point.

Yet, HIGH END RIGS will last you way longer than a affordable one (makes sense, doesn´t it!? 😀 ) since
Manufaturers want you to stick with High End Components once you went down that Road.
So a GTX x80series (480,580,680,780....) will always last you longer than a GTX x70 and so on, and so on.

Buddys of mine are NOW playing on 580s and still can play at High/Ultra Settings and get decent fps numbers, but the coolers start to boost it now and in a year they should upgrade IF they want the highest of settings in all new Titles.
However that is about 3,5years of lifetime then, whats a hell of a lifespan for a gpu in the terms of highend gaming.

And the Haswell-E will be on a new socket using ddr4..... now i dont know about you, but i sure wouldnt get the first shipment of chips and boards.....let them be released, fixed, and decreased in pricing 😉 and also ddr4 prolly will come with some childhoodissues that i dont want to deal with^^
Also the 6core will be a small upgrade to the 4930k, and the 8core haswell-e will start somewhere around 1000bucks, so keep that in mind.

Games in particular still cant really handle more than 4 cores, so a 4770k sometimes beats a 4930k in gaming.
And the 780Ti (trust me dawg, i got one) is a BEAST of a card....BF3 mp 64players, ULTRA settings and i am having a CONSTANT ROCK SOLID 60fps in 1080p not even dropping a single frame if the whole damn Map implodes in front of me.
And it isnt even in Boost or Gaming Mode, runs quite and gets at like 56°C..... so that piece of awesomness should last quite a while (especially since my main concern is not gaming, but its a pretty sweet bonus).


So yada yada yada..... just get a System, or wait until you stumble over your own beard.
BUT IF you want your Rig to last you a while you will always have to go Highend Parts and you always have to know that they will be outdated at some point in the not so distant future.

for me, it isnt the fear of being outdated, maybe just a little bit. I am building a new silent pc, and the 2x powersaving is great. It means i dont have to have high fan speeds to dissapate heat from the gpu.

I was gonna go for amd for pure performance/dollar
Its just so loud and hot, that i cant. Not even reference saves it. still runs 94 degrees.

 

[Daspa87]

I dont get the HASSLE!??

If you´re scared that your Build will be outdated, never Build a Rig at all.
THIS is the fastest moving Market today and your parts will always get "outdated"
at some point.

Yet, HIGH END RIGS will last you way longer than a affordable one (makes sense, doesn´t it!? 😀 ) since
Manufaturers want you to stick with High End Components once you went down that Road.
So a GTX x80series (480,580,680,780....) will always last you longer than a GTX x70 and so on, and so on.

Buddys of mine are NOW playing on 580s and still can play at High/Ultra Settings and get decent fps numbers, but the coolers start to boost it now and in a year they should upgrade IF they want the highest of settings in all new Titles.
However that is about 3,5years of lifetime then, whats a hell of a lifespan for a gpu in the terms of highend gaming.

And the Haswell-E will be on a new socket using ddr4..... now i dont know about you, but i sure wouldnt get the first shipment of chips and boards.....let them be released, fixed, and decreased in pricing 😉 and also ddr4 prolly will come with some childhoodissues that i dont want to deal with^^
Also the 6core will be a small upgrade to the 4930k, and the 8core haswell-e will start somewhere around 1000bucks, so keep that in mind.

Games in particular still cant really handle more than 4 cores, so a 4770k sometimes beats a 4930k in gaming.
And the 780Ti (trust me dawg, i got one) is a BEAST of a card....BF3 mp 64players, ULTRA settings and i am having a CONSTANT ROCK SOLID 60fps in 1080p not even dropping a single frame if the whole damn Map implodes in front of me.
And it isnt even in Boost or Gaming Mode, runs quite and gets at like 56°C..... so that piece of awesomness should last quite a while (especially since my main concern is not gaming, but its a pretty sweet bonus).


So yada yada yada..... just get a System, or wait until you stumble over your own beard.
BUT IF you want your Rig to last you a while you will always have to go Highend Parts and you always have to know that they will be outdated at some point in the not so distant future.

for me, it isnt the fear of being outdated, maybe just a little bit. I am building a new silent pc, and the 2x powersaving is great. It means i dont have to have high fan speeds to dissapate heat from the gpu.

I was gonna go for amd for pure performance/dollar
Its just so loud and hot, that i cant. Not even reference saves it. still runs 94 degrees.

Ok so noise2performance wise i can just tell you that the "MSI gtx780 Ti Gaming 3G" is a Beast and runs suuuuperquiet while reaching farely acceptable temperatures.
With the smaller architecture you should keep in mind that they also want to make architectures smaller to fit more crap/shaders^^ on the same space, so it will be relative considering cooling and noise.
780s/780Ti´s and TITANS are based on KeplerChips that by now are really at their peak, so if you buy one of those badboys now you get a worked over and refined GPU, if you go with 800series cards end of this/beginning of the next year, you´ll MAYBE stumbling over childhoos issues like heatissues, noiseissues that come from heatissues and so on and so on..... so if you dont want a laboratory rat for 600-1000bucks for a gpu, get one of the yummy ones that are out right now^^

like i said, they will put more shaders on there, whats awesome performancewise, but wont do you any favours noise or heatwise....maybe not even that much in powerconsumption, depending on how good they get the new chipsets to work off the first shipments.

With all that said..... get a HighEnd card now, or wait your butt off and get one later..... one way or another you will get a HighEnd Card and your Nerdboner is assured with that sooner or later 😀

cheers mate

 

[RobCrezz]

I dont get the HASSLE!??

If you´re scared that your Build will be outdated, never Build a Rig at all.
THIS is the fastest moving Market today and your parts will always get "outdated"
at some point.

Yet, HIGH END RIGS will last you way longer than a affordable one (makes sense, doesn´t it!? 😀 ) since
Manufaturers want you to stick with High End Components once you went down that Road.
So a GTX x80series (480,580,680,780....) will always last you longer than a GTX x70 and so on, and so on.

Buddys of mine are NOW playing on 580s and still can play at High/Ultra Settings and get decent fps numbers, but the coolers start to boost it now and in a year they should upgrade IF they want the highest of settings in all new Titles.
However that is about 3,5years of lifetime then, whats a hell of a lifespan for a gpu in the terms of highend gaming.

And the Haswell-E will be on a new socket using ddr4..... now i dont know about you, but i sure wouldnt get the first shipment of chips and boards.....let them be released, fixed, and decreased in pricing 😉 and also ddr4 prolly will come with some childhoodissues that i dont want to deal with^^
Also the 6core will be a small upgrade to the 4930k, and the 8core haswell-e will start somewhere around 1000bucks, so keep that in mind.

Games in particular still cant really handle more than 4 cores, so a 4770k sometimes beats a 4930k in gaming.
And the 780Ti (trust me dawg, i got one) is a BEAST of a card....BF3 mp 64players, ULTRA settings and i am having a CONSTANT ROCK SOLID 60fps in 1080p not even dropping a single frame if the whole damn Map implodes in front of me.
And it isnt even in Boost or Gaming Mode, runs quite and gets at like 56°C..... so that piece of awesomness should last quite a while (especially since my main concern is not gaming, but its a pretty sweet bonus).


So yada yada yada..... just get a System, or wait until you stumble over your own beard.
BUT IF you want your Rig to last you a while you will always have to go Highend Parts and you always have to know that they will be outdated at some point in the not so distant future.

for me, it isnt the fear of being outdated, maybe just a little bit. I am building a new silent pc, and the 2x powersaving is great. It means i dont have to have high fan speeds to dissapate heat from the gpu.

I was gonna go for amd for pure performance/dollar
Its just so loud and hot, that i cant. Not even reference saves it. still runs 94 degrees.

Ok so noise2performance wise i can just tell you that the "MSI gtx780 Ti Gaming 3G" is a Beast and runs suuuuperquiet while reaching farely acceptable temperatures.
With the smaller architecture you should keep in mind that they also want to make architectures smaller to fit more crap/shaders^^ on the same space, so it will be relative considering cooling and noise.
780s/780Ti´s and TITANS are based on KeplerChips that by now are really at their peak, so if you buy one of those badboys now you get a worked over and refined GPU, if you go with 800series cards end of this/beginning of the next year, you´ll MAYBE stumbling over childhoos issues like heatissues, noiseissues that come from heatissues and so on and so on..... so if you dont want a laboratory rat for 600-1000bucks for a gpu, get one of the yummy ones that are out right now^^

like i said, they will put more shaders on there, whats awesome performancewise, but wont do you any favours noise or heatwise....maybe not even that much in powerconsumption, depending on how good they get the new chipsets to work off the first shipments.

With all that said..... get a HighEnd card now, or wait your butt off and get one later..... one way or another you will get a HighEnd Card and your Nerdboner is assured with that sooner or later 😀

cheers mate

I see what you are saying, but we havent had a chip with issues for years. Ok the GTX 480 was loud and hot, but so is the 290/290x, better cooling fixes that.

The new Maxwell chips will be very impressive im sure.