Your Experience with Windows 10

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Your ISP is worse than every company; they know ALL of your online activity.
 


Very true, unless you're behind an encrypted VPN and I don't necessarily trust that to be true either as I don't know all the technical mechanics of how that works. In the end it's still data packets going through them. Think about that next time you go to google and type "The Pirate Bay" and then search Pirate Bay for Star Wars VII.... I think ISP's do keep feelers out for that kind of use through it's network.
 

As an ex-ISP guy i can confirm that
First thing I learned when i started was how to track activity "for security reasons" . Its been like 9-10 years since then but im sure every ISP still does that

Imo how did the conversation went from windows 10 experience to ISP stalking :)
 


Because for a lot of people some of the biggest issues involve security and how much information MS is attempting to collect from users. People have always been willing to do that for services like email or free social media like Facebook etc.. But this trend to put it right into the OS is new. Personally I don't like it either, but that's the direction they're heading.

I mean if it's a free product or service you're getting in exchange for your data it's routine, but for a paid OS? Or as the speculation about the future of Windows being a pay per month service OS, if we're paying then my data should be sacrosanct.
 


Ok i get it now... but MS always had ways to collect user data. The only difference now is they finally announced it.
What i dont get is why all the fuss. I mean... like stated above ISP tracks you, Social sites (FB, Twitter etc.) have your data, apps you used on those have your data, E-mail services have your data, your phone also store some of your data and with the use of smartphones it gets more and more from us. Thats not a shocking news. Hell, even going to google for a common search that search is stored in their servers and by multiple searches you made they already know your preferences. I personally think the most relevant thing is to keep the important info "out of reach"

Windows becoming monthly paid... i dont think so. Although they are monopolist in their field. They have contract with other companies and thats why progs and games come with windows compatibility and not lnux per say
 


Well think of it like this, what's more appealing, paying 5 bucks a month for an OS that's constantly maintained and updated and you never have to buy a 100 dollar OS every few years? Businesses would be the first to jump on board with that scheme if only to not have the front end investment on hundreds of machines.

Adobe CC went with that model, and even MS with Office365 has that 6.99 a month setup. I think Office doing it was to dip their feet in the water so to speak to see how many people would rather pay 7 a month instead of 200 bucks for a full office suite. Yes I know LibreOffice and OpenOffice are always options, but to the average consumer they want what they know and businesses tend to lean towards MS Office products.

I just see the "microtransactions" pay model moving from gaming to all aspects of computing.
 


Did you at least have your morning coffee before this happened?
 


hadn't eaten/drunk anything all day :'(

now waiting for wild run beta which has been probably half an hour installing the last 10%

 
Not being able to control updates properly is a big disappointment for me. Windows always wants to install the wrong driver (eg for graphics or printer).

I'm getting blank screens with explorer, unusable start menus, and error messages with cortana (despite not using it) as the result of installing security software (avast, comodo). I remove them, everything suddenly starts working again. I also received a blank screen with cursor upon installation, and had to update my graphics drivers. 10 is still very much a beta, and is also based on windows 6 (vista) just like the rest-I'll give it a year from now in order to become stable. It feels very much like 8.1 but then again, I use it with the start screen (essentially menu+all apps) instead of menu alone.

The menu in 10 is no better to 8 either, whether full screen or menu mode, scrolling vertically instead of horizontally with a mouse wheel, you are still without an instant refresh and drag and drop without having to view explorer. 8.1 remains stable and fast, and there is always classicshell to stop most of those woes. I remain on 10.. for now
 
I'm very thankful to Microsoft for providing a free windows 10 upgrade offer. Perfect operating system after windows 7. Windows 8 looked kind of messed up (at least for me) so I skipped windows 8, windows 10 came and I upgraded to windows 10 using the free upgrade offer. Laptop is working perfect and fast.
 
So far only few driver issues and had issues with starting the game Mad Max but other then that better improvement then the windows 8/8.2.

Boot time: 8.5
Design: 7.5
Driver compatibility: 6
Gaming: 8.4
Overall: 7.7
 
Windows 10 in my experience is pretty fast compared to windows 8. I don't mind it since it's like windows 8 but without the nice theme. My main problem is the tiles. I'm a visual kind of guy. I like my windows 8 tile menu. I had custom tiles that made it look really cool. Swapping back and forth from desktop to start screen was really cool. The way I had my games custom tiles and applications made my experience with windows 8 a lot of fun. Windows 10, it just looks really cheap. I wish I could use the windows 8 start menu but that's not going to happen. I'm afraid to revert back to windows 8 because I'll lose a lot of stuff and basically make windows 8 look default. In my experience, windows 7 was the best. Windows 8 was visually amazing. Windows 10 just holds speed and nothing more.

Biggest mistake I ever did was upgrading to windows 10. Major regret!
 
You can still use a full screen start menu on Windows 10(without using tablet mode).

The problem is the redesign has removed the ability to make custom tiles like 3rd party software did for 8.

While 3rd party software can make custom tiles it has to run a modern app on each program launch and that delays opening things.
 


This is exactly how I use it. I prefer the full screen in desktop mode to the new menu.
It feels exactly like 8.1, as if I haven't updated, but with the incompatibilities.

I still can't get comodo to run well, after a day or two after another attempt, it is still causing problems with the 8 style interface of 10 (just like avast antivirus did, but I've now switched to bitdefender). I'm now using windows firewall, but it's not really an issue as it is good enough and I can block anything if necessary. Bitdefender picks up any junk online, and spywareblaster and ublock origin plugin are good enough to go along with it. I haven't had problems (interface issues, crashes) installing games for family, so it seems to be just some security software that is the issue. Panda and bitdefender antivirus work fine, which is what I have tested with 10 so far. Of course you only need one. Panda's optional firewall did not cause any problems either, but windows own firewall might be just as good, if not better.

As for the forced driver updates, I can to stop this, just not for individual devices, unfortunately.
Perhaps I will find a third party tool that does it eventually, if microsoft don't change this method of updating.
Control Panel > Device & printers > Right Click the Computer under Devices and select Device Installation settings.
Do you want to download driver software and realistic icons for your devices?
Select No, 'let me choose what to do'. Click Save changes.
Same method as for 7 and 8 as you would expect.
 


 
I upgraded from 7 on an ASUS 55 laptop as follows USBs stopped working Picasa would not work. Nero did not work properly Sound stopped working Open Office did not work properly & My Printer disconnected..after a week on the printer I gave up & paid £6 for 2 recovery disc's..never going near Windows 10 again
 

That us a pretty rough transition. THIS is the reason they NEED to check compatibility before offering upgrades.
I use OpenOffice so maybe you just needed a Java update. I am not surprised about Nero as new operating systems nearly always killed it in the past. I remember getting a new version when using Vista(but I think it also worked on 7). Since I no longer need to burn anything other than occasional data I do not even need it any more.

They have an uninstall option for Windows 10 to allow you do go back within the first 30 days.
 


 
I want a new 17" lap top for Chrissie (Xmas)..I want either a windows 10 I can convert to 7 or will have to buy Windows 7 laptop while still available
 
Windows 7 will go out of long term support in just 2020. I would at least op for 8.1 to get a longer support cycle.

You will have to check with the notebook maker or documentation about downgrade options. For a good while after 8 came out a downgrade to 7 was an option.

This is normal practice in case a user requires the older version.
 


Or they just need to do a clean install and not offer upgrades. This is why I hate upgrades. I did two in my home. One was a clean 8.1 install so no big deal. The other was my HTPC but short of PowerDVD and KLite it has nothing on it to mess up. But people with their entire lives on a system will run into multiple issues that even Microsoft cannot account for.

I will say that 10 has had the smoothest upgrade so far compared to previous versions of Windows but it still is having issues because some people are running old hardware or software that is not designed for the changes made to the core of the OS.
 
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