Question Building a PC with low budget??

[hamada.hosny93]

Hi guys, I'm currently building the 1st gaming PC for my cousin but he's low on budget, I tried to do my best, here you're my suggestion:

- CPU: core i5 14400 (maybe have to consider core i5 12400F due to low budget problem)
- MB: ASUS PRIME H610M-A D4-CSM LGA 1700
- RAM: Patriot 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz DDR4 Viper Steel Kit
- GPU: ASUS Dual RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
- PSU: Corsair SF600 Platinum Fully Modular Power Supply Black
- Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh TG Black PC Gaming Case RGB Edition
- SSD/HDD: Already has one.

Is it ok to go with it in terms of quality and decent parts?

 

[Why_Me]

Something like this maybe.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£98.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin Spirit V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£15.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£114.99 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£57.86 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.95 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £411.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 11:40 BST+0100

 

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You might want to stay away from Intel. In fact you should have better luck with an AM4 Ryzen 5000 series platform, guestimating here since we don't know where you're located.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

if you can update the mobo bios:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($87.07 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($33.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($58.97 @ Newegg Sellers)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $640.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-09 08:32 EDT-0400

 

[Tomos Woolley]

That's a poor CPU choice it's nearly the same as a 3600 it would make more sense to go for the 5600 I know it's not ideal for a budget but it's not even close to similar performance

 

[hamada.hosny93]

That's a poor CPU choice it's nearly the same as a 3600 it would make more sense to go for the 5600 I know it's not ideal for a budget but it's not even close to similar performance

Why its poor choice? core i5 14400 is the latest generation from Intel.

In terms of P-Core it should work like 4.8 on all 6 cores while Ryzen 5600 is 4.2 on all 6 cores.
If we made the comparison with core i5 12400 they are both the same performance, same price also here, but as a new build I should get the latest.

 

[helper800]

Hi guys, I'm currently building the 1st gaming PC for my cousin but he's low on budget, I tried to do my best, here you're my suggestion:

- CPU: core i5 14400 (maybe have to consider core i5 12400F due to low budget problem)
- MB: ASUS PRIME H610M-A D4-CSM LGA 1700
- RAM: Patriot 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz DDR4 Viper Steel Kit
- GPU: ASUS Dual RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
- PSU: Corsair SF600 Platinum Fully Modular Power Supply Black
- Case: BitFenix Nova Mesh TG Black PC Gaming Case RGB Edition
- SSD/HDD: Already has one.

Is it ok to go with it in terms of quality and decent parts?

What is the actual budget? I would consider this the minimum viable product without storage assuming its in budget:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($142.58 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 UD AX DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($121.32 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($299.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $797.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-08 12:50 EDT-0400

Why its poor choice? core i5 14400 is the latest generation from Intel.

In terms of P-Core it should work like 4.8 on all 6 cores while Ryzen 5600 is 4.2 on all 6 cores.
If we made the comparison with core i5 12400 they are both the same performance, same price also here, but as a new build I should get the latest.

He was referring to the ryzen 5500, not the 14400.

 

[Why_Me]

That's a poor CPU choice it's nearly the same as a 3600 it would make more sense to go for the 5600 I know it's not ideal for a budget but it's not even close to similar performance

The 12400F is a solid cpu.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

The 12400F is a solid cpu.

I was referring to the ryzen 5500 not the 12400 . the 12400 is a brilliant CPU can't fault it at all. If my wife wasn't married to ryzen am4 I would have jumped ship to it for her but she loves her amd set up. soon enough we might have to take a look at what platform next but I think she might wait for am6 after we slot an r7 5800x at xmas

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Why its poor choice? core i5 14400 is the latest generation from Intel.

In terms of P-Core it should work like 4.8 on all 6 cores while Ryzen 5600 is 4.2 on all 6 cores.
If we made the comparison with core i5 12400 they are both the same performance, same price also here, but as a new build I should get the latest.

Love your pick of CPU I was talking about the ryzen 5500 sorry I didn't reply sooner went out for a meal with the family then I had to put my youngest to bed an that takes hours. Then I wasn't checking forms

 

[Why_Me]

I was referring to the ryzen 5500 not the 12400 . the 12400 is a brilliant CPU can't fault it at all. If my wife wasn't married to ryzen am4 I would have jumped ship to it for her but she loves her amd set up. soon enough we might have to take a look at what platform next but I think she might wait for am6 after we slot an r7 5800x at xmas

Look at the 5700X. That cpu runs cooler.

 

[Zerk2012]

Why its poor choice? core i5 14400 is the latest generation from Intel.

In terms of P-Core it should work like 4.8 on all 6 cores while Ryzen 5600 is 4.2 on all 6 cores.
If we made the comparison with core i5 12400 they are both the same performance, same price also here, but as a new build I should get the latest.

If you really are looking for some help you must list the budget, and where you can buy parts from!

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Look at the 5700X. That cpu runs cooler.

Ill take a look she has a pretty good cooler on it the arctic cooler esport34 duo iirc. But a cooler system is a better system as long as it helps her frame rate its all good.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I was referring to the ryzen 5500 not the 12400 . the 12400 is a brilliant CPU can't fault it at all. If my wife wasn't married to ryzen am4 I would have jumped ship to it for her but she loves her amd set up. soon enough we might have to take a look at what platform next but I think she might wait for am6 after we slot an r7 5800x at xmas

Depends on the budget. The 5500 with pbo is still ahead of the 3600.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Depends on the budget. The 5500 with pbo is still ahead of the 3600.

Not by much its the reject of the 5000 series that couldn't even make it to 5600g and thats saying something as 5600g shouldn't really be considered a true 5000 series chip as it is

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Still better than 3600 and not much difference between 5600G and 5500with pbo. Look at the chart above.

Like I said, included 5500 for the cost. Either come up with a constructive partbuild for the OP or suggest an alternative.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Still better than 3600 and not much difference between 5600G and 5500with pbo. Look at the chart above.

Like I said, included 5500 for the cost. Either come up with a constructive partbuild for the OP or suggest an alternative.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£119.95 @ AWD-IT)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A520M K V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£47.97 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card (£298.00 @ MoreCoCo)
Case: NZXT H5 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Total: £679.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-09 13:07 BST+0100

Its an option as I don't know the price point its hard to know how many corners need cutting I just pointed out a issue I saw in the CPU

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I guess you can appreciate the tradeoffs that you had to make:

A520 mobo. weak VRMS which would throttle a 5700X3D if the OP decides to upgrade.

Tier B PSU without 16 pin power cable.

No Storage listed.

I would probably use the 5600 with the box cooler

I would not trade the 5600X for A520 mobo and no pcie 4.0 for GPU.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Still better than 3600 and not much difference between 5600G and 5500with pbo. Look at the chart above.

Like I said, included 5500 for the cost. Either come up with a constructive partbuild for the OP or suggest an alternative.

You know 1 single chart doesn't really tell you anything but one metric even then its on a single CPU tested by one group broaden your catchment to make a reasonable point. I never recommended the 3600 to be clear

 

[Tomos Woolley]

I guess you can appreciate the tradeoffs that you had to make:

A520 mobo. weak VRMS which would throttle a 5700X3D if the OP decides to upgrade.

Tier B PSU without 16 pin power cable.

No Storage listed.

I would probably use the 5600 with the box cooler

I would not trade the 5600X for A520 mobo and no pcie 4.0 for GPU.

Original post stated they already have storage nothing wrong with an a520 board if the op does decide to upgrade down the line I doubt they would stick to a dead line am4 for minimal gains. this is bang for buck current time not what might happen years from now.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

You know 1 single chart doesn't really tell you anything but one metric even then its on a single CPU tested by one group broaden your catchment to make a reasonable point. I never recommended the 3600 to be clear

Starting to sound like trolling now. And I agree to disagree on using the A520 mobo. Your argument would have been more convincing if you had suggested a 12400F build in about the same cost.

Anyway, I think i have stated all my point for the 5500 build at that budget. Good day.

 

[Tomos Woolley]

Starting to sound like trolling now. And I agree to disagree on using the A520 mobo. Your argument would have been more convincing if you had suggested a 12400F build in about the same cost.

Anyway, I think i have stated all my point for the 5500 build at that budget. Good day.

That's fair enough up until you back that one chart is enough to prove a point I am not disagreeing that the 12400f is the best option here infact in my own comments earlier I said I would have switched my wife to it if it wasn't that she loves her amd set up and didn't want to change to intel. I am not going to argue with her, I just build and maintain it she uses it