[SOLVED] Help me choose: I5 10400F paired with a decent b460 board VS I5 11400F paired with a low end B560/H510 board.

[yahyaelgayar]

The title says it all, my budget only allows for either one of those combos. I'm not too concerned about upgradability as this will probably be my last DDR4 build, i don't need more than 32 gigabytes of ram either. But what i deeply yearn for is a stable working system after years of hiccups with my first gen ryzen build.

My board of choice would prolly be the Asus TUF b460 plus/M for the 10400F and any low end asus board for the i5 11400f. There isn't really a difference in the price of the cpu's but the b460 boards are cheaper (30 dollar difference or so). Which do you think is worth it more? I use my rig for gaming (modern warfare, cyberpunk 2077) and i'm pairing the cpu with my 1650 super. Thanks in advance

 

[Nighthawk117]

The title says it all, my budget only allows for either one of those combos. I'm not too concerned about upgradability as this will probably be my last DDR4 build, i don't need more than 32 gigabytes of ram either. But what i deeply yearn for is a stable working system after years of hiccups with my first gen ryzen build.

My board of choice would prolly be the Asus TUF b460 plus/M for the 10400F and any low end asus board for the i5 11400f. There isn't really a difference in the price of the cpu's but the b460 boards are cheaper (30 dollar difference or so). Which do you think is worth it more? I use my rig for gaming (modern warfare, cyberpunk 2077) and i'm pairing the cpu with my 1650 super. Thanks in advance

10400F with a decent B460 board, the cheap boards have weaker VRM's and a lower power limit in place. The11400F uses a fair amount of power so you'll only end up with power throttling if you don't buy a good board so you won't get the most out of it anyway. I'd always choose a nice quality board over a little more performance any day. As luck would have it though, there isn't that much difference between those two chips in games anyway because the former has better core to core latency and the latter has a faster architecture. They'd both easily drive a 1650 Super.

 

[yahyaelgayar]

10400F with a decent B460 board, the cheap boards have weaker VRM's and a lower power limit in place. The11400F uses a fair amount of power so you'll only end up with power throttling if you don't buy a good board so you won't get the most out of it anyway. I'd always choose a nice quality board over a little more performance any day. As luck would have it though, there isn't that much difference between those two chips in games anyway because the former has better core to core latency and the latter has a faster architecture. They'd both easily drive a 1650 Super.

I think you're absolutely right, i'll be going for an Asus Tuf B460 Plus and a 10400F over the 11400F and an Asus h510M-K. It looks like there's problems anyways with the new turbo mode on the I5 chips and h510 chipsets due to those power limits. Hopefully the parts will arrive quickly and work as intended!

 

[Nighthawk117]

I think you're absolutely right, i'll be going for an Asus Tuf B460 Plus and a 10400F over the 11400F and an Asus h510M-K. It looks like there's problems anyways with the new turbo mode on the I5 chips and h510 chipsets due to those power limits. Hopefully the parts will arrive quickly and work as intended!

Yeah you don't want that Asus board the power delivery is garbage, never mind features, it's just one big compromise. You'll be much happier with the Asus Tuf and the 10400F. I'm building a system with the latter for my brother, it's a nice little chip.

Enjoy your computer

 

[rcald2000]

Would it not also make sense to compare against the costs of the LGA 1700 platform? I suspect that a core i3-12100F with a B660 (or even a H610) motherboard, would outperform an core i5-10400.

** Cinebench R23 **

i5-10400F: 1120 / 8164 (single/multi)

i3-12100F: 1679 / 8172 (single/multi)

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $129.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-11400f-core-i5-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118264
Intel Core i5-11400F $171.85 Save: $28.14 (14%)

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560M-BAZOOKA

 

[yahyaelgayar]

Would it not also make sense to compare against the costs of the LGA 1700 platform? I suspect that a core i3-12100F with a B660 (or even a H610) motherboard, would outperform an core i5-10400.

** Cinebench R23 **

i5-10400F: 1120 / 8164 (single/multi)

i3-12100F: 1679 / 8172 (single/multi)

Availability where i live isn't that great so waiting for the i3 12100F to be in stock and budget motherboards is going to take quite some time. i'll put it in mind though!

 

[yahyaelgayar]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $129.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-11400f-core-i5-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118264
Intel Core i5-11400F $171.85 Save: $28.14 (14%)

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B560M-BAZOOKA

Never ever buying an MSI board again.

 

[yahyaelgayar]

10400F with a decent B460 board, the cheap boards have weaker VRM's and a lower power limit in place. The11400F uses a fair amount of power so you'll only end up with power throttling if you don't buy a good board so you won't get the most out of it anyway. I'd always choose a nice quality board over a little more performance any day. As luck would have it though, there isn't that much difference between those two chips in games anyway because the former has better core to core latency and the latter has a faster architecture. They'd both easily drive a 1650 Super.

OK so bad news, TUF B460 is out of stock almost everywhere. I found an Asus B560M-K within my budget pairing it to an i5 11400F. I can't find very detailed reviews of the board but it seems like it'll do the job, b560 should give me needed power delivery and i'm fine with two slots of ram up to 64 GB.

 

[Nighthawk117]

OK so bad news, TUF B460 is out of stock almost everywhere. I found an Asus B560M-K within my budget pairing it to an i5 11400F. I can't find very detailed reviews of the board but it seems like it'll do the job, b560 should give me needed power delivery and i'm fine with two slots of ram up to 64 GB.

You have to be a little careful with the 11400, when I looked before the entry level boards struggled with it.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Hardware Unboxed did tests of the B560 boards. Looks like the Asus B560M-K ran hot with the 11400:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkiTA0XvXUM

The different CPU's are timestamped in the video description.

 

[Nighthawk117]

What I take from that is the Asrock B560 Pro4 is not a bad bet if you want to run the 11400F at 4.2Ghz on all cores.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168131...60 Pro4-_-13-157-977-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

[Nighthawk117]

What prices did you originally have for the 10400F and the Asus Tuf B460M?

 

[yahyaelgayar]

The Asroc

What prices did you originally have for the 10400F and the Asus Tuf B460M?

I live in Egypt so prices are quite different

However, the Asrock B560 pro 4 seems out of stock everywhere, and from that video i can see that the b560M-k's vrm is garbage even with a locked simple chip like the i5 11400F, I can see a B460 prime plus listed on a website, maybe pairing that with the 10400F is a good idea?

 

[Nighthawk117]

The Asroc

I live in Egypt so prices are quite different

However, the Asrock B560 pro 4 seems out of stock everywhere, and from that video i can see that the b560M-k's vrm is garbage even with a locked simple chip like the i5 11400F, I can see a B460 prime plus listed on a website, maybe pairing that with the 10400F is a good idea?

Unfortunately I can't see any details on that one. Do you have any other B460's or B560's available to you? You could also pair a 10400F with a B560 if the latter has better availability.

 

[yahyaelgayar]

Unfortunately I can't see any details on that one. Do you have any other B460's or B560's available to you? You could also pair a 10400F with a B560 if the latter has better availability.

I ended up doing like you said and got a Gigabyte B560M H and a 10400F. it's a cheap combo and the B560 board means i can upgrade to an 11th gen chip if needed. Warranty is also good on gigabyte boards where i live so this will probably be as stable as it can get. i can't find many reviews of the board online but it should perform as other entry level B560 gigabyte boards. all in all not too bad!