Question Need Urgent Advice for New Build

[FatatSteel]

So i am building my first gaming PC with about 1100 to spend on the PC itself. I aim to play MW, BF5, Metro and any future games that come out. Take a look at my build and tell me if its worth it rn and if its future proof and for how long. Please give me your opinion and what you think of my build in terms of bang for your buck and future-proofing and such. I am worried that i will spend 1100 dollars one something that is not worth it or that has parts that are not worth the money. I am sure i want to build a gaming PC but i don't want to waste my money at the same time. Thanks



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($173.85 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($424.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($66.87 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1134.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-27 01:39 EDT-0400

 

[mdd1963]

The 5700XT consistently outperforms the 2060 Super at the same price....

(A comparison of coolers, as I think the Hyper212 EVO has been left behind....)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkgWTH3V-OM

 

[kevinburrow]

It's arguable if you even need a cooler, depending on if you're going to overclock or not. In your shoes I'd not bother with it and add a 1tb or 2tb standard HDD for storage, but of course that's up to you

I definitely agree on the 5700XT - I have one myself they're great value in terms of price to performance but a little more risky in terms of potential issues.

 

[FatatSteel]

It's arguable if you even need a cooler, depending on if you're going to overclock or not. In your shoes I'd not bother with it and add a 1tb or 2tb standard HDD for storage, but of course that's up to you

I definitely agree on the 5700XT - I have one myself they're great value in terms of price to performance but a little more risky in terms of potential issues.

I do plan to oc and not disrespect but I've always been green team because if how reliable they are. But do u think my setup now is worth it with everything going on and is my money allocated well ? Im getting the 212 evo but eventually i want t aio unless i upgrade my cpu and mobo but idk

 

[kevinburrow]

I do plan to oc and not disrespect but I've always been green team because if how reliable they are. But do u think my setup now is worth it with everything going on and is my money allocated well ? Im getting the 212 evo but eventually i want t aio unless i upgrade my cpu and mobo but idk

It's quite similar to what I would build apart from the GPU, yes. Perhaps a slightly better CPU cooler if you plan on heave oc'ing, as suggested?

 

[FatatSteel]

It's quite similar to what I would build apart from the GPU, yes.

What difference would be from your build and mine other than the gpu. Im sorry i don't mean to be pushy but i like to have as much info as i can to make the best choices.

 

[kevinburrow]

What difference would be from your build and mine other than the gpu. Im sorry i don't mean to be pushy but i like to have as much info as i can to make the best choices.

Well I overclock a bit but don't overclock enough to warrant a CPU cooler so that would free up money for me to get more storage. 500GB isn't going to hold much these days. Soon that may only be enough for a couple of games and the O/S!

 

[FatatSteel]

Well I overclock a bit but don't overclock enough to warrant a CPU cooler so that would free up money for me to get more storage. 500GB isn't going to hold much these days. Soon that may only be enough for a couple of games and the O/S!

Very true indeed. Now what do you think of the b450 max tomahawk and the 2060 gaming x and the 3600 combo interms of 1-3 years. Would that hold me in high-ultra gaming in 1080 p as that is the max res my monitor does when i buy it?

 

[kevinburrow]

Very true indeed. Now what do you think of the b450 max tomahawk and the 2060 gaming x and the 3600 combo interms of 1-3 years. Would that hold me in high-ultra gaming in 1080 p as that is the max res my monitor does when i buy it?

Well I prefer the 5700XT as you know and have had neither of those cards - they perform less well but are more stable. The average gamer probably wouldn't notice the difference, particularly at 1080p. And yes both will comfortably get over 60fps in any game at high/ultra at 1080p and even many games at 1440. Hell I have a spare system with a GTX 980 and I-5 4590 which can still get 60fps on GTA 5 at high. I love the Tomahawk, and it's often recommended for lower or mid level gaming rigs.

 

[FatatSteel]

Well I prefer the 5700XT as you know and have had neither of those cards - they perform less well but are more stable. The average gamer probably wouldn't notice the difference, particularly at 1080p. And yes both will comfortably get over 60fps in any game at high/ultra at 1080p and even many games at 1440. Hell I have a spare system with a GTX 980 and I-5 4590 which can still get 60fps on GTA 5 at high. I love the Tomahawk, and it's often recommended for lower or mid level gaming rigs.

Good to know, now since you saw my build and parts how long do you think this build will last me until it becomes old or bottlenecked?

 

[kevinburrow]

Good to know, now since you saw my build and parts how long do you think this build will last me until it becomes old or bottlenecked?

Mid level rigs such as this, and what I usually get, typically last about 3 years. But like I said my spare, which was originally a lower mid level in 2015/16 is still capable nearly 5 years later, though showing its age on newest titles and would melt at 1440. It's impossible to know for sure but a good 3 years probably. 4K gaming might change everything, of course.

 

[FatatSteel]

Mid level rigs such as this, and what I usually get, typically last about 3 years. But like I said my spare, which was originally a lower mid level in 2015/16 is still capable nearly 5 years later, though showing its age on newest titles and would melt at 1440. It's impossible to know for sure but a good 3 years probably. 4K gaming might change everything, of course.

Wdym might change everything? And that sad to hear lol but in 3 years my new job might get me to high tier gaming as i get out of highschool in June so who knows. I hope this PC lasts me 2-3 years and by then i think i will go team blue with an powerful i9 and a 3080 ti i think but who knows lol

 

[kevinburrow]

Trying to stay ahead of the curve will always end in failure

4k gaming is super expensive right now but of course it's likely to become cheaper as it develops. But I think that's a few years away for most people.

 

[Hellfire13]

So i am building my first gaming PC with about 1100 to spend on the PC itself. I aim to play MW, BF5, Metro and any future games that come out. Take a look at my build and tell me if its worth it rn and if its future proof and for how long. Please give me your opinion and what you think of my build in terms of bang for your buck and future-proofing and such. I am worried that i will spend 1100 dollars one something that is not worth it or that has parts that are not worth the money. I am sure i want to build a gaming PC but i don't want to waste my money at the same time. Thanks



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($173.85 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($424.00 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($66.87 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 62.74 CFM 120 mm Fan ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $1134.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-27 01:39 EDT-0400

You have a CL18 RAM kit and a garbage PSU in there. You can probably try the stock cooler though before getting a better one, its not that bad per se. Modified your build with better parts...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor | $199.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler | $47.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard | $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $92.99 @ B&H
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card | $399.99 @ Best Buy
Case | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case | $64.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $89.99 @ B&H
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $9.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $9.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1170.80
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1150.80
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-27 04:16 EDT-0400 |

 

[FatatSteel]

You have a CL18 RAM kit and a garbage PSU in there. Modified your build with better parts...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor | $199.99 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard | $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $92.99 @ B&H
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card | $399.99 @ Best Buy
Case | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case | $64.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $89.99 @ B&H
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $9.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan | ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan | $9.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1122.90
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1102.90
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-27 04:14 EDT-0400 |

Wait what wrong will cl18 ram i thought the higher the better, someone recommended cl16 ram but i wen higher because i thought its better, and the psu is evga i always thought evga and corsair were the best brands

 

[Hellfire13]

Wait what wrong will cl18 ram i thought the higher the better, someone recommended cl16 ram but i wen higher because i thought its better, and the psu is evga i always thought evga and corsair were the best brands

The tighter(lower) timing you have the better performance you will get...
https://premiumbuilds.com/ram/best-ram-for-ryzen-3000/

Not all models from EVGA or Corsair is good. Infact most of their models are made by Seasonic. Here is a Tier guide for quick reference...
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

 

[FatatSteel]

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory with cas latency of 16 ? is that the best for my 3600x i don't want the 3600 anymore because i know its slower than the 3600x

 

[Hellfire13]

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory with cas latency of 16 ? is that the best for my 3600x i don't want the 3600 anymore because i know its slower than the 3600x

Yep, that will do just fine.

 

[FatatSteel]

Yep, that will do just fine.

Yep, that will do just fine.

Yep, that will do just fine.

Ok last question and thnaks for you help btw https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb...820232898?Item=N82E16820232898&quicklink=true will that work with my board reviews are saying its optimized or something for x570 board

 

[Hellfire13]

Ok last question and thnaks for you help btw https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb...820232898?Item=N82E16820232898&quicklink=true will that work with my board reviews are saying its optimized or something for x570 board

RAM kits are pretty flexible these days and usually tend to work universally on most chipsets. The most guaranteed way to know is to match with the board QVL but that doesnt mean the unlisted kits wont work. Its just that, its not practically possible to test all the kits with all the boards out there.
Regardless, it should work fine, although other than the bling factor, RGB doesnt add anything to performance. In fact it draws more power and produces more heat on the contrary. And that bling factor can only charm you for so long.

 

[mdd1963]

Good to know, now since you saw my build and parts how long do you think this build will last me until it becomes old or bottlenecked?

I'd guess the R5-3600 with a good GPU like a 5700XT would be good for 3 years even at 1440P, and, perhaps 2 extra years at 1080P, assuming some even more heavy texture/geometry games enter the fray as is typical...

 

[FatatSteel]

RAM kits are pretty flexible these days and usually tend to work universally on most chipsets. The most guaranteed way to know is to match with the board QVL but that doesnt mean the unlisted kits wont work. Its just that, its not practically possible to test all the kits with all the boards out there.
Regardless, it should work fine, although other than the bling factor, RGB doesnt add anything to performance. In fact it draws more power and produces more heat on the contrary. And that bling factor can only charm you for so long.

I decide to go with the 3200 triden z rgb as it was recommended and i could just use xmp to get those speeds the 3600 speed was giving other trouble and i would just like to avoid all of that

 

[Hellfire13]

I decide to go with the 3200 triden z rgb as it was recommended and i could just use xmp to get those speeds the 3600 speed was giving other trouble and i would just like to avoid all of that

Not sure what trouble you are talking about, but 3200mhz should work fine too. The Crucial RAM i have listed is CL16 and should work fine too. Your call mate.

 

[FatatSteel]

Not sure what trouble you are talking about, but 3200mhz should work fine too. The Crucial RAM i have listed is CL16 and should work fine too. Your call mate.

So I'm about to buy my mobo but now its sold out everywhere it was in stock yesterday ahhhhhh, can you suggest another mobo for my 3600x that might will have the new bios update for my cpus plz