[SOLVED] Low CPU & GPU usage , & Low FPS ?

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SupimX

SupimX

Jun 1, 2021
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Specs
-OS: Windows 10 Home Edition
-GPU: AMD Radeon R7 260M
-CPU: Intel Core i5-4210U 2.4 GHz
-RAM: 6GB DDR3
-Disk: HDD 1TB (100GB free rn)

Other:
-Direct X12
-Drivers are all up to date

Things i have tried:
-scanning for corrupted files through CMD ( sfc/ scannow)
-reinstalling graphics drivers
-adjusting power options to high performance
-setting priority to high in task manager
-enabling/disabling windows 10 game mode
-other stuff :/

this happens on alot of games but as an example lets take something like "bluestacks 5"

Picture 1 :
https://imgur.com/a/AuFT60c
View: https://imgur.com/a/AuFT60c
8-27 Fps with basically little to no GPU usage and the thing is when the game gets demanding both CPU usage and GPU usage go down drastically (despite being already low) decreasing FPS to around 8-10
Picture 2:
https://imgur.com/a/EoRIkzB
View: https://imgur.com/a/EoRIkzB



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Colif
did you add up all the little parts of Avast before as its possible it added up to about the same or more. whereas defender only has 1 process under it, avast likely have about 6 or 7 processes. Avast had 14 drivers so at least your driver list is a little shorter now.
Kaspersky is the worst, often about 20 drivers,

much of defender is built into windows though so its usage is masked.

clean install of windows would at least force it to get all new drivers and hopefully fix whatever one you have that is buggy

as i said, most systems i see have 1 page of drivers, not 3. How old is this install?
the unscientific method - replace old drivers
elbycd is getting old
wonder what QImem.sys from Toshiba does. its described as generic i/o &...
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Ya you are probably paging a lot of memory to a very slow HDD as well. 8GB is really the new minimum in win 10. Your HDD is old enough I doubt it is shingled but if it is that is another order of magnitude of slowness for the paging file. Your anti virous, discord and opera are sucking up a lot of memory too.

I am no expert so take what I say with a gain of salt and get a second opinion.
$66
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-16gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820156047?quicklink=true

WD makes a 500GB SSD for $50 you can get at walmart that should last 4-8 years with normal paging usage. I generally turn off paging though for my SSDs and make sure I have enough memory for what I am doing. Better to have enough slow memory then need to hit paging files.
 
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rgd1101 said:
memory usage is high. and did you check individual core usage? emulator usually don't use all the cores
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i set the emulator to use 3 cores (doesn't make a notable difference when i set it to use all 4 ) as for memory usage opera's memory usage just spiked there suddenly and even then i usually dont have it open when im playing the games

Disk sometimes rises to this
https://imgur.com/a/uuMA1kP
View: https://imgur.com/a/uuMA1kP

looksl ike this :
https://imgur.com/a/bV0sxzP
View: https://imgur.com/a/bV0sxzP

then this :
https://imgur.com/a/C19SKXj
View: https://imgur.com/a/C19SKXj


this is idle :
https://imgur.com/a/msl2VB7
View: https://imgur.com/a/msl2VB7



as for the paging :
https://imgur.com/a/JhOdvs3
View: https://imgur.com/a/JhOdvs3

its abnormally high yes (some games ... ok fine 1 game needed about 15k MB paging size .... that was the yuzu emulator) i used to set it to 6k or 8k since alot of things would give me an out of memory error on something like 2k or 3k

this is doom eternal when idling:
https://imgur.com/a/aiFVFTj
View: https://imgur.com/a/aiFVFTj

when actually anything demanding happens :
https://imgur.com/a/r4biyXv
View: https://imgur.com/a/r4biyXv


game cpu usage dips down to 7% and 8% for 2 cores while the other 2 are like 10% or something it dips up and down insanely giving off stupid FPS spikes

the thing is despite the fact that doom shouldn't run on my laptop like a while back it used to run just fine and 60 fps with no spikes on the lowest resolution and settings not even with that its working clunky
 
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Zerk2012 said:
I would agree running out of memory so its depending on the hard drive and the CPU and GPU has nothing to do.
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wouldnt really say its a case of memory usage
https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9
View: https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9

when i close opera there plenty of memory and most apps dont really use that much (except for a few like modded terraria that uses like 2000 MB with a hefty amount of mods)
most applications dont even come close to using like 70% or something
yet the CPU and GPU usage are very low and the fps is terrible whenever the game gets demanding
 
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SupimX said:
wouldnt really say its a case of memory usage
https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9
View: https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9

when i close opera there plenty of memory and most apps dont really use that much (except for a few like modded terraria that uses like 2000 MB with a hefty amount of mods)
most applications dont even come close to using like 70% or something
yet the CPU and GPU usage are very low and the fps is terrible whenever the game gets demanding
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100% disc use and 90% memory use I would say it is.
https://imgur.com/a/uuMA1kP
View: https://imgur.com/a/uuMA1kP


https://imgur.com/a/EoRIkzB
View: https://imgur.com/a/EoRIkzB
 
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side note : doom eternal was a horrible example turns out it runs at 100% GPU Usage and 50% CPU Usage and 80% memory usage...... huh thou it did run much better with these usages before :/ weird
 
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SupimX said:
game uses around 2.5 GB
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Then your running out of memory windows will try not to let your memory get to 100% if it did it would freeze or crash.

From one of your above statements

its abnormally high yes (some games ... ok fine 1 game needed about 15k MB paging size .... that was the yuzu emulator) i used to set it to 6k or 8k since alot of things would give me an out of memory error on something like 2k or 3k

Windows should be taking care of this not you.

Edit I give up somebody else might can help you no more on this post from me.
 
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windows won't crash if you run out of ram, it will just run really slow as it runs off page file. win 10 can shrink itself down to fit in 750mb of ram so it won't crash. the less ram you have, the bigger page file will grow to compensate. Sure, it can't grow forever, there is a commitment max, but its 3 x total ram so it will take a while to reach.
SupimX said:
wouldnt really say its a case of memory usage
https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9
View: https://imgur.com/a/q6ciWm9
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that screen just shows your user total, you are the only human user but system is a non human user used by windows to do all your requests. So the difference between what is showed there and whats on Performance tab is likely windows itself doing stuff.

what does ram look like when hdd is at full usage?

tried defragging hdd?
 
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Colif said:
windows won't crash if you run out of ram, it will just run really slow as it runs off page file. win 10 can shrink itself down to fit in 750mb of ram so it won't crash. the less ram you have, the bigger page file will grow to compensate. Sure, it can't grow forever, there is a commitment max, but its 3 x total ram so it will take a while to reach.


that screen just shows your user total, you are the only human user but system is a non human user used by windows to do all your requests. So the difference between what is showed there and whats on Performance tab is likely windows itself doing stuff.

what does ram look like when hdd is at full usage?

tried defragging hdd?
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The HDD has 0% fragmentation
i do a defrag weekly

having 100% disk doesn't really push up anything else to high percents
 
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what brand hdd is it? have you run any tests on its health to make sure drive is okay?
what motherboard?

High page file size could mean you use way more memory than you have ram

I don't think it is a memory leak from a driver as if ram doesn't constantly grow to 100%, and shrinks if you stop using programs, and its just the hdd, it isn't likely a driver asking for more space and not letting go. It might be but they normally chew up ram

Can you download and run Driverview - http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/driverview.html
All it does is looks at drivers installed; it won't install any (this is intentional as 3rd party driver updaters often get it wrong)
When you run it, go into view tab and set it to hide all Microsoft drivers, will make list shorter.

Now its up to you, you can look through the drivers and try to find old drivers, or you can take a screenshot from (and including)Driver name to (and including)Creation date. Upload it to an image sharing website and show link here
All I would do is look at driver versions (or dates if you lucky to have any) to see what might have newer versions.

I am curious what drivers you have, there are some drivers that are known to cause memory leaks.

what is usage like in a clean boot state?
Try a clean boot and see if it changes anything - make sure to read instructions and make sure NOT to disable any microsoft services or windows won't load right - https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/929135/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows

if clean boot fixes it, it shows its likely a startup program. You should, over a number of startups. restart the programs you stopped to isolate the one that is to blame.
 
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Nichabell said:
100% disk chokes your CPU, memory and GPU to 10% because they are waiting for the info from the HDD.
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100% disk usage isnt a consistent thing it just happens randomly every now and then usually unrelated to games
like i could be idling and bam 100% disk usage and i could be playing a demanding game and the disk usage would be like 4% or something

also when it does go to 100% it only stays like that for like a range of : a few seconds to max 2 mins or something
 
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wow, never seen anyone with so many drivers before, its normally a lot shorter.

I don't see any common causes.


Download Process explorer and run it as admin (it comes from Microsoft so its safe)

the default view is tree structure meaning like your task manager screen, it will show what processes are under each service, but unlike task manager, it shows the memory usage of each part so you can see what is eating your hdd

Private bytes = Ram + page file usage
Working set = actual ram usage

You want to look at private bytes here since its not using ram as much

it shows way more info than Task Manager does.
 
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I watched a streamer play Eve Echoes, android game. He tried a few emulators and Bluestack performed the worst. Along with the other problems, test other emulators out.

Are all those drivers necessary? Pango, Logmein, tencent etc? I'm personally not fond of Avast either. If it's not absolutely necessary, don't install it.
 
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mamasan2000 said:
I watched a streamer play Eve Echoes, android game. He tried a few emulators and Bluestack performed the worst. Along with the other problems, test other emulators out.

Are all those drivers necessary? Pango, Logmein, tencent etc? I'm personally not fond of Avast either. If it's not absolutely necessary, don't install it.
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seems like a personal issue to me because legit everyone i know said that bluestacks is better

and even i tried a handful of emulators like : Nox , andy , that yellow one dont remember it

and bluestacks performed somewhat better than all of them :/

as for avast im not really fond of them either :3 but tbh im conflicted on a good antivirus like what would that be
whenever i do a virus scan i just use malware bytes but as for an actual antivirus what would be nice
 
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Bluestacks sure chews the hdd. uses 32mb of ram but chews on the hdd

Private bytes = Ram + page file usage
Working set = actual ram usage

what is usage like in safe mode. No drivers, no 3rd party programs.
your ram usage is too high

click on the charts in menu area, they show more but don't tie to files, just show how much ram/page file is being used
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