[SOLVED] My games keep freezing my whole pc then unfreeze

[DS Fitz]

i have had this issue for so incredibly long and im really drained from trying to fix it,
when im playing a game i can tell my pc is about to freeze as ingame images or words will disappear - for example when i open the destiny 2 menu and there are no words and around 20 seconds later my whole pc will freeze, i can move my mouse around but that's it, i can't open task manager while in this state, this will last around 30-60 seconds until it resumes everything usually resulting in my game just bugging out and me closing it through task manager. Yes I have installed my drivers up to date and updated Windows
my specs are:
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My specs are:
Gigabyte gtx 1660 oc gpu - upgraded from gtx 1050 ti which I still had the same problems listed above
AMD FX 835cpu
Gigabyte 78LMT-USB R2 motherboard
HyperX FURY 16GB(2x8GB) ram
EVGA 600BR psu
CiT G Force Mid-Tower RGB PC Gaming Case
1TB SSD Sandisk Ultra 3d - my third storage device in less than two years had 2 hard drives before which both failed

I would really appreciate any advice or help with my situation.

 

[Phaaze88]

1)Cpu thermal margin while in game - please use AMD Overdrive, if you haven't been already: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4645-amd-overdrive.html
If thermal margin for the cores gets to 0 or even a negative number, then you definitely have a cooling issue.

2)HyperX FURY 16GB ram: is this a normal dual channel kit, or did you buy one and add more later?
I suggest you run Memtest86 free version - especially if you did the latter: https://www.memtest86.com/
It takes a few hours, so run it overnight. The results should be error-free, and with no system hangs or crashes.

3)Condition of the storage drive?
Your current drive may have it's own software for checking that, but just in case, I'll link one that works: https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskInfoInstaller

4)Your motherboard isn't adequate for handling the 125w FX cpus. They overwhelm and eventually burn out the board's VRMs.
You're then forced to downclock the cpu or just use the PowerNow! feature at #1 in bios:

Low power features	PowerNow!
Low power P states [1]	#1: 3400 MHz, 1.225V #2: 2800 MHz, 1.125V #3: 2100 MHz, 1V #4: 1400 MHz, 0.875V

5)Psu isn't great, but it's probably not the source if this was going on even with the 1050Ti.

 

[DS Fitz]

1)Cpu thermal margin while in game - please use AMD Overdrive, if you haven't been already: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4645-amd-overdrive.html
If thermal margin for the cores gets to 0 or even a negative number, then you definitely have a cooling issue.

2)HyperX FURY 16GB ram: is this a normal dual channel kit, or did you buy one and add more later?
I suggest you run Memtest86 free version - especially if you did the latter: https://www.memtest86.com/
It takes a few hours, so run it overnight. The results should be error-free, and with no system hangs or crashes.

3)Condition of the storage drive?
Your current drive may have it's own software for checking that, but just in case, I'll link one that works: https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskInfoInstaller

4)Your motherboard isn't adequate for handling the 125w FX cpus. They overwhelm and eventually burn out the board's VRMs.
You're then forced to downclock the cpu or just use the PowerNow! feature at #1 in bios:

Low power features	PowerNow!
Low power P states [1]	#1: 3400 MHz, 1.225V #2: 2800 MHz, 1.125V #3: 2100 MHz, 1V #4: 1400 MHz, 0.875V

5)Psu isn't great, but it's probably not the source if this was going on even with the 1050Ti.

I will try the possible solutions you have listed, thanks for taking time out of your day to help

 

[DS Fitz]

1)Cpu thermal margin while in game - please use AMD Overdrive, if you haven't been already: https://www.techspot.com/downloads/4645-amd-overdrive.html
If thermal margin for the cores gets to 0 or even a negative number, then you definitely have a cooling issue.

2)HyperX FURY 16GB ram: is this a normal dual channel kit, or did you buy one and add more later?
I suggest you run Memtest86 free version - especially if you did the latter: https://www.memtest86.com/
It takes a few hours, so run it overnight. The results should be error-free, and with no system hangs or crashes.

3)Condition of the storage drive?
Your current drive may have it's own software for checking that, but just in case, I'll link one that works: https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskInfoInstaller

4)Your motherboard isn't adequate for handling the 125w FX cpus. They overwhelm and eventually burn out the board's VRMs.
You're then forced to downclock the cpu or just use the PowerNow! feature at #1 in bios:

Low power features	PowerNow!
Low power P states [1]	#1: 3400 MHz, 1.225V #2: 2800 MHz, 1.125V #3: 2100 MHz, 1V #4: 1400 MHz, 0.875V

5)Psu isn't great, but it's probably not the source if this was going on even with the 1050Ti.

So i played Destiny 2 on high graphics for about 10 - 15 minutes and I was getting a thermal margin of 11-19° C I am not sure if thats good or bad, I'm kinda clueless when it comes to this sorry.
But usually my game crashes and freezes my pc but it was fine for some reason when i played today.
Also yes the ram is dual 8gb sorry i forgot to add that

 

[logainofhades]

That board is probably dying. They had poor VRM's, and were not well suited to those 125w CPU's., despite being "compatible". Your PSU quality is not very good either, but that board was terrible. I had a couple of them, myself, with FX 8320. They didn't live long.

 

[Phaaze88]

So i played Destiny 2 on high graphics for about 10 - 15 minutes and I was getting a thermal margin of 11-19° C I am not sure if thats good or bad, I'm kinda clueless when it comes to this sorry.

That's ok.

Ram is ok too.

Most likely culprit here is the motherboard being exhausted.

 

[DS Fitz]

That's ok.

Ram is ok too.

Most likely culprit here is the motherboard being exhausted.

That's unfortunate, sorry for asking so many questions you have been very helpful thus far, do you have any good recommendations on a good motherboard I should get to replace it?
Also is my psu good enough or do I need to upgrade that as well? I cant spend too much, but thanks again for taking time out of your day just to help some stranger online I really appreciate it, you give these forums a good representation.

 

[Phaaze88]

That's unfortunate, sorry for asking so many questions you have been very helpful thus far, do you have any good recommendations on a good motherboard I should get to replace it?
Also is my psu good enough or do I need to upgrade that as well? I cant spend too much, but thanks again for taking time out of your day just to help some stranger online I really appreciate it, you give these forums a good representation.

That's tough.
If it could be helped, I would rather not suggest a motherboard replacement for that outdated platform. No more money should be going into that - a new cpu/mobo/ram combo would be ideal.
How much is the budget?

How old is the psu? I see that it has a 3 year warranty.

 

[DS Fitz]

The psu is around a year and a half old as is the motherboard and cpu.
I could probably squeeze in around 400 euro for the budget.

 

[Phaaze88]

The psu is around a year and a half old as is the motherboard and cpu.
I could probably squeeze in around 400 euro for the budget.

1)Ok, so still within the warranty period, at least.
2)That's certainly doable. Here's a couple of options:

A)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€179.00 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€34.53 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (€108.49 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€75.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €397.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 02:23 CEST+0200

B)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€152.94 @ TopAchat)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€34.53 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€114.94 @ TopAchat)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€92.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €394.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 02:20 CEST+0200

 

[logainofhades]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€139.00 @ ARLT)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler (€26.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€130.53 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €396.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 15:24 CEST+0200


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€166.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€130.53 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €396.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 15:25 CEST+0200

 

[DS Fitz]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€139.00 @ ARLT)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler (€26.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€130.53 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €396.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 15:24 CEST+0200


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€166.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€130.53 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €396.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 15:25 CEST+0200

1)Ok, so still within the warranty period, at least.
2)That's certainly doable. Here's a couple of options:

A)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€179.00 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€34.53 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (€108.49 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€75.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €397.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 02:23 CEST+0200

B)
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€152.94 @ TopAchat)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€34.53 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€114.94 @ TopAchat)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€92.00 @ Amazon France)
Total: €394.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-26 02:20 CEST+0200

Wow thank you both for giving suggestions, I'm a bit of a newbie so which is probably the best for gaming?

 

[Phaaze88]

Wow thank you both for giving suggestions, I'm a bit of a newbie so which is probably the best for gaming?

Since me and logainofhades both posted the Ryzen 3600 and 3300X, I think this is the best way to show you:
[Heads up, both the reviewers used 2080Tis in their runs to rule out the possibility of gpu limitations - with less powerful gpus, the gaps between these 2 cpus will be smaller than what you see in the slides]

Video #1(Already saved at 18:18 if you just want to see the average results)

View: https://youtu.be/4dY64Zy1Mxw?t=1098


Video #2(you'll probably want to skip to the different timestamps in the video)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2fFpzPKPg


I don't know about Steve's 'an R3 is enough for gaming claim'. I learned my lesson with that during the Sandy/Ivy Bridge days.

 

[DS Fitz]

Since me and logainofhades both posted the Ryzen 3600 and 3300X, I think this is the best way to show you:
[Heads up, both the reviewers used 2080Tis in their runs to rule out the possibility of gpu limitations - with less powerful gpus, the gaps between these 2 cpus will be smaller than what you see in the slides]

Video #1(Already saved at 18:18 if you just want to see the average results)

View: https://youtu.be/4dY64Zy1Mxw?t=1098


Video #2(you'll probably want to skip to the different timestamps in the video)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2fFpzPKPg


I don't know about Steve's 'an R3 is enough for gaming claim'. I learned my lesson with that during the Sandy/Ivy Bridge days.

Wow, thanks so much you've been a huge help, you have saved me a lot of time and effort especially since I'm not as experienced as you guys are.

 

[DS Fitz]

Since me and logainofhades both posted the Ryzen 3600 and 3300X, I think this is the best way to show you:
[Heads up, both the reviewers used 2080Tis in their runs to rule out the possibility of gpu limitations - with less powerful gpus, the gaps between these 2 cpus will be smaller than what you see in the slides]

Video #1(Already saved at 18:18 if you just want to see the average results)

View: https://youtu.be/4dY64Zy1Mxw?t=1098


Video #2(you'll probably want to skip to the different timestamps in the video)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2fFpzPKPg


I don't know about Steve's 'an R3 is enough for gaming claim'. I learned my lesson with that during the Sandy/Ivy Bridge days.

Whilst I'm getting these new parts, did you say i should get a refund for my power supply and get a new one or stick with my current one

 

[Phaaze88]

Whilst I'm getting these new parts, did you say i should get a refund for my power supply and get a new one or stick with my current one

It's just ok - it's not going to blow up your PC, nor should a 1660 be a problem with it. Plus, you're still within the warranty period, as far as usage goes.
You don't need to change it right away.